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1/n I offer my #SadarPranam to Ishwara within @tjoseph0010 . There are abundant flaws in his article that you shared William Sir. My Pranam to you too while in below thread of tweets I debunk “Aryan Migration(Invasion) Theory”wrt the article.
Tony sir,pl don’t respond until n/n
Can the arrival of the Aryans in India explain the disconnect between Harappan and Vedic culture? https://scroll.in/article/906684/can-the-arrival-of-the-aryans-in-india-explain-the-disconnect-between-harappan-and-vedic-culture … via @scroll_in
Can the arrival of the Aryans in India explain the disconnect between Harappan and Vedic culture?
There is a fundamental discontinuity between the two cultures, writes Tony Joseph in his book ‘Early Indians’.
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2/n As a starting point one needs to understand literature of civilisation to know who they are & where they are from. The latest researches about “River Saraswati” had begun drying around 24ka.
Ref: Bhadra (2014). You may read full paper here https://www.academia.edu/9339359/River_Saraswati_in_Northwest_India_CHAPTER_-1 …
3/n RigVeda,the oldest text of RigVeda talks about RiverSaraswati 65 times. In fact in earlier part, it talks about Sarasvati as greatest among all,hence the mightiest.
Check below 2.41.16
अम्बि॑तमे॒ नदी॑तमे॒ देवि॑तमे॒ सर॑स्वति । अ॒प्र॒श॒स्ता इ॑व स्मसि॒ प्रश॑स्तिमम्ब नस्कृधि ॥
4/n As per the theory that @tjoseph0010 has been subscribing to considers “Aryans” to have come to India in 2nd Millennium BCE, how did they mention about the river Saraswati as mighty of all though it had begun to dry 20k years before alleged arrival of Aryans.
5/n Of course Aryans didn’t had time-machine, or @tjoseph0010 you too fantasise that Aryans were that advanced? 😉
For more info on Geological aspects of Saraswati you may refer following papers Mary courty1986,Frankfort 1992,Khonde 2007,Clift 2012,Sarkar 2016,Singh2017,Dave2018
6/n Interesting point to enquire is that why Aryans don’t mention anything about the rivers or geography where the theory @tjoseph0010 uses hints then to come from? Did they not like their homeland? Why mention of only India?
7/n If the inhabitants of Indus Valley migrated to East & South, then why inhabitants of Tamil Nadu & Bengal too follow Vaidik Rituals. Infact a Tamil Hindu follows Vaidik ritual way more than a north-Indian (alleged Aryans)
8/n Further it gets even more interesting that while the theory @tjoseph0010 uses, clearly draws distinction between South & North wrt to Aryan-Dravidian Divide, but what gets interesting is that the First Sangam had Vaidik Rishi Agastya as chairman.
9/n I’m quoting from a book of an author who believes in Aryan Migration Theory but interestingly mentions “Sangam” as being founded by Agastya Rishi.
11/n They contest that Aryans drove chariots into India from Pontic–Caspian steppe in 1800 BCE.
But what fails them is the amount of evidences that supports existence of “Horse Chariots” way earlier than this proposed date. I’m sharing evidences in appending tweets.
12/n Below points are taken from “Danino (2006)”.
13/n Archaeologist Dhavalikar found horse’s remains daring to mid 3rd Millennium BCE. It was recognised as domestic horse (Equus Cabalus).
14/n Horse figurine were discovered from Mohenjodaro & Lothal.
Perhaps the most interesting of the model animals is one that I personally take to represent a horse. I do not think we need be particularly surprised if it should be proved that the horse existed thus early at Mohenjo-daro.
16/n Then @tjoseph0010 tries to show cultural distinction between Aryans & Harappans using mistranslations of Vedas.
17/n @tjoseph0010 , The ancient Sanskrit grammarian and etymologist Yaksha translated the word “Shisnadeva” as “unchaste people” in his nirukta.
I’m really failing to understand who gave you translation as “Phallus”. Now I’ll also explain u RV7.21.5 & 10.99.3 as u seem unaware
18/n @tjoseph0010 RigVeda 7.21.5
न यातव इन्द्र जूजुवुनोर् न वन्दना शिवष्ठ वेद्यािभः |
स शधर्दयोर् िवषुणस्य जन्तोमार् िशश्नदेवा अिप गुरतंनः ||
<Let our true God subdue the hostile rabble: let not the lewd approach our holy worship.”>
19/n RigVeda 10.99.3
स वाजंयातापदुष्पदा यन सवषार्ता पिर षदत्सिनष्यन |
अनवार् यच्छतदुरस्य वेदो घनिञ्छश्नदेवानिभ वपर्सा भूत ||
<He seized the hundred-gated castle’s treasure by craft, unchecked, and slew the lustful demons.>
@tjoseph0010 where is Phallus Worshiper?
20/n While @tjoseph0010 agrees that Harappans worship “Shiva” he thought that the alleged “Aryans” didn’t. So I thought of telling him situations of RigVeda where “Rudra” is worshiped. Of 1028 hymn in RigVeda, 3 are for “Rudra”.
I’ll quote Richas in appending tweets.
21/n @tjoseph0010 Mahamrintujaya mantra comes in RV(7.59.12),YV(3.60),AV(14.1.17).
ॐ त्र्यं॑बकं यजामहे सु॒गन्धिं॑ पुष्टि॒वर्ध॑नम् ।
उ॒र्वा॒रु॒कमि॑व॒ बन्ध॑नान् मृ॒त्योर् मुक्षीय॒ माऽमृता॑त् ।
This Richa is also called the Rudra mantra, referring to the furious aspect of Shiva.
22/n Now the 21/n breaks myth that the alleged “Aryans” didn’t worship Shiva. It further clarifies that Shiva was being worshiped when Saraswati was still flowing as mighty one. Hence it further draws cultural similarity between Harappans & your foreign “Aryans”.
23/n Now I bring in a very interesting aspect. While @tjoseph0010 denies Shiva worship among alleged “People from Steppe” the Western Indologist have been drawing parallel line between “Shiva” & “Terminus”. Though unlike Tony sir,Roger considers “worship” not “denouncement”.
24/n Right from the time of Greek Invasion,westerners hv been fancied to call”Dionysus”&Shiva same just to justify “Aryan Tourism Theory “ cc @IndianInterest
N/n In this thread (24 tweets)I’ve picked problems in article by @tjoseph0010 that supports “Aryan Migration Theory” written with excerpts from his book “Early Indians”.